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a) Hoagland and his intergalactic voyage of discovery
Richard Hoagland has made a name for himself for many years looking for signs of intelligent design on planets, comets and the moon solar system for a good number of years. With his website ww.enterprisemission.com and his radio show "The Other Side Of Midnight" has encouraged open discussion on the minutiae of the issue of ancient ruins on other planets. His exploration involves looking for evidence of extra-terrestrial arcology to be found in photos of the surfaces of other planets such as Mars and the various moons. And he has explored the idea that the renowned face of Mars in the Cydonia region is an artificial object, and this subjet matter has been something in pop culture. His idea was that there was an advanced civilisation in our solar system that has since disappeared, perhaps a vast disaster had occurred. And today we are to aim to explore these places and find the archives left behind that would tell us the history of our solar system that we have now forgotten about.
b) Prehistoric memories from disasters on other planets in Giger's work?
Richard Hoagland aware of Giger's artwork found what he was exploring in photos where he perceived alien ruins to be Giger-esque and so found Ridley Scott's Alien to be the first really alien movie that he ever saw. In one of his radio shows, Andrew Currie, an illustrator wondered if perhaps in all of us as humans, there was a collective memory of everything that had happened since the universe begin, and so there was a resonant quality that cam over from looking at material featuring images of planet surfaces with ruin like features that they believed to be ruins. Perhaps as another guest of his Keith Laney, said , it was because we were in essence billion year old carbon. And then Richard then added that there was a possibility that while they were looking at it and seeing all these different things, others might not see it psychologically because their trauma from their deaths through reincarnative memories of when they lived on these other worlds was so awful and horrible that they suppressed it for millions of years. Perhaps Giger was the reincarnation of a consciousness that dimly remembered this extraordinary moment that they were looking at through photos of these planetary bodies and it had imprinted in his art.
c) Where did Giger's inspiration come from?
Giger had an interest in imagining that was taking place in his artwork was happening around the other side of the galaxy and these entities in his paintings were extra-terrestrials, perhaps as a science fiction mythos. He read a lot of esoteric literature for inspiration, perhaps one can find references to things in Ancient Astronaut theory and UFOlogy, but wasn't known to have taken any of it as a fact too seriously and he listened to his female companions over time read science fiction novels for inspiration as well. Where the inspiration for Giger's dark elaborate work came from is indeed an issue. (For further exploration on this see HR Giger's art)
Source Quotes
- (In reference to a strange mountainous structure with ribbed sides on Ceres) Keith Laney: You know something I noticed about this Richard, HR Giger would be proud of this thing
Richard Hoagland: Oh Giger, very. Now that bring, now hang on , that brings up an interesting idea, where is Giger getting his inspiration. Did, did Giger used to live in a place like this? Is the current Giger the reincarnation again and again and again and again and again of a consciousness that dimly remembers, this extraordinary moment, and that has imprinted his art
Keith Laney: I guess the same one we came from Richard, 'cause we saw it and recognised it immediately.
Richard Hoagland:Good, touche, touche. (othersideofmidnight.com/thu-aug-27-open-lines - August 27th 2015, (57.00)) - (In reference to a strange details of the surface of Pluto) Andrew Currie: You know
Richard, I think you and Kieth, last week, I think, were talking about, I
assume, or recently, were talking about Giger and what informed Giger
Richard Hoagland: Mmm
Andrew Currie: And this brings me back
Richard Hoagland: This is very Giger-esque
Andrew Currie: Yuh
Richard Hoagland: It's very Giger-esque, and for anybody who doesn't know who Giger is, Giger is the brilliant artist who did the artwork and the models and the sets and all that or did the template for the sets in Alien. The first really alien movie I think I ever saw
Andrew Currie: Yuh, yuh. And and in a conversation with Kieth, and Kieth, I hope you don't mind me saying this, we, we were kind of erm, in our long, in our long Skype conversation which went by in an hour and a half, we talked about erm and this goes back to some of the the stuff I had talked about in our previous thing on Alan Bean, is, you know, in all of us is a collective memory of everything that's happened since the universe began, so maybe some of us, as you talk about, Richard, there's a, there's a resonant quality that, that, comes from looking at this kind of stuff and analysing it, maybe even appearing here like together, you know, pebbles gathering in the water that's been, you know, pebbles push the water together type of thing
Keith Laney: You know, we're billion year old carbon
Richard Hoagland: Yes, yes, quoting a very nice song. Um, you know, I've just had another thought. What if all the people who look at this and don't see what we see can't see it psychologically because their trauma, their deaths, their reincarnative memories of when they lived here is so awful, so horrible, they literally suppressed it for millions of years
Andre Currie: Exactly. Yuh, exactly, and it's a lot easier to forget about it than it is to face it
(othersideofmidnight.com/fri-sept-11-will-farrar September 11th 2015 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vtuyO1r7Oc) or 1:20:34)
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