Ancient Aliens season 1, episode 4

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Ancient Aliens: Arguably the most remarkable Mayan artifact ever found , the stone sarcophagus lid of king Pacal has produced considerable contraversy.     
 
                                             

Ancient Aliens: Mainstream scholars believe the depiction is of King Pacal on a journey to the  underworld. But ancient astronaut theorists believe the king is portrayed seated at the controls of a spacecraft and have dubbed him the Palenque astronaut.  
 

David Childriss: He appears to be going into space. He's the original rocket man there manipulating his space craft , going into space.
 

Giorgio A Tsoukalos: We have maintained for a very long time that the depiction here is of King Pacal sitting inside some type of a space craft because he is at an angle like modern day astronauts upon lift-off. He's manipulating some controls right here. He has some type of breating apparatus or some type of a telescope in front of his face. His feet are on some type of a pedal. and down here you have something that looks like an exhaust with flames. 
 


Ancient Aliens: In 2011, the strange carving on King Pacal's sarcophagus lid was translated into a 3D replica by model maker Paul Francis

Model inspired by the Pakal Votan tomb lid image as seen on Ancient Aliens



Paul Francis: When  I saw this, I instantly said, there's a guy in a space capsule, you know, it doesn't need to be spelled out for me, I don't have to find anything, it was already there, it was carved many many years ago.


Giorgio A Tsoukalos: I think this is absolutely extraordinary because  this is definitely one of these most compelling pieces in the ancient astronaut theory, and to finally see Pacal as a 3D sculpture to me is a dream come true. 



Giorgio A Tsoukalos: For the longest time we have said what is on this Pacal lid is not symbolic, it was something the artist saw or was told about and then he or she tried to recreate this on a slab. I love the craftsmanship, I love how you, you know at the bottom of the Palenque slab, you see something like, the flames.
 
 

Paul Francis: It looks something like fire and and

Giorgio A Tsoukalos: Exactly

Paul Francis: And I had to do a little interpretive, I put engine bells on instead of the flame

Giorgio A Tsoukalos: Of course

Paul Francis: But that's the thruster stage

Giorgio A Tsoukalos: I also love the detail that you have underneath his right foot where his foot is resting on a pedastool and that is exactly what we can see in the Palenque slab...
 

Giorgio A Tsoukalos: and how his hands are manipulating some controls, 




Giorgio A Tsoukalos: and also this kind of breathing apparatus that's going on in front of his nose




Paul Francis:  The breathing apparatus is actually a very neat piece, it's called the giver of life. The soul transfers through this. And the giver of life to me would be, air. I mean we breathe air. This is a guy who needs this mask to survive

Giorgio A Tsoukalos: Because, where is he?

Paul Francis: Outer space

Ancient Aliens: Could the carving on the sarcophagus lid really provide confirmation of the complicity between Maya rulers and extra-terrestrial forces as Ancient Astronaut theorists believe?

(Ancient Aliens season 1, episode 4,  Air date: 17 February 2012)

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  2. Earlier Piyush Kumar entered a message here "nice post!" and when I clicked onto the link underneath his message to get to this page from the page with all the comments on it that I have to see, I accidently deleted his comment by mistake. However I wish to say "Thanks, Piyush!"

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  4. Oops Sorry Michael. I accidently deleted your comment but you said that your professor at university said that it is a man going into the underworld, and indeed this would be a correct point of view about interpretation. But indeed there are ways for some people to imagine that it is a man in a space capsule of some sort. I don't actually personally believe that it must be a space capsule but I can see how it can be interpreted as one by people and I will be open minded about the whole thing. Here is my page breaking down what is understood in much more traditional archeological terms. http://alienexplorations.blogspot.co.uk/2012/01/mythology-behind-tomb-lid-of-pakal-votan.html

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  5. Yes, it seems that nearly every time I press the button to have a look at the message properly on the page, I end up pushing the delete message button

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    1. Karoly, I accidently deleted your message but didn't mean to. it seems to be a regular thing here. You asked if the Mayan Rocket Man was made into a kit. I haven't seen anything so far to say it was, and yes maybe it ought to be,

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  7. Would be nice to be able to actually read the thread....rather then a bunch of deletions. :/

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  8. Yes, unfortunately every time I clicked onto the link that would bring me to this page from the page where I get to see the list of the latest comments that have come through, I accidently clicked on the remove comment button. One can only be thankful that they didn't have much to say and that I read the comment before I accidently clicked on the remove comment button. If there was an restore comment button, I would be happy to restore their comments.

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  9. The giver of life would be Jesus Christ the Son of God. He created us out of clay and breathed like into our nostrils.

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  10. Hi wmmvrrvrrmm, good post, i am a fan of ancient aliens and i want to know if you have some 3d model of that vehicle, i want to build one that, thanks man!

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    1. I have never built one. The idea of turning the tomb lid into a space craft does interest me and it's interesting that they should attempt to build one in this TV program. Paul Francis who built that model for the show has more photos of it at his website (http://www.lucasfrancisstudio.com/lfs/film-work?album=7&gallery=110) and perhaps there is a way to contact him through there or even Facebook where he is to be found as Paul. E. Francis.

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  11. were can I buy a model of king packal in the space capsule

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    1. Good question and amazingly I absolutely have no answer for that. The model maker Paul Francis has been asked by others, by the looks of his Facebook page

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  12. be careful, do not delete any comment accidentally again...

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  13. I would like to buy one?
    Or two.
    Please let me know?

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    1. It seems that on Facebook (See: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10202816606588935&set=pb.1014120709.-2207520000..&type=3) several years ago Paul Francis mentioned that he had a plan to sell this as a prepainted sculpture. You would have to contact him to see how this has developed.

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