As a caption for the painting in his book Alien Vault, the Mr Nathan writes "Giger's extraordinary tableau of the alien cycle, which was to be discovered within the temple, a place where the Space Jockey's sacrificed animals as alien hosts" which doesn't really sound right when you known that the Space Jockey was only a visitor to the planet.
I'm reminded of an interviewer for Fantastic Films magazine who suggested to Dan O'Bannon that the space jockey had come to the planetoid to spawn .
- Ian Nathan:
Giger's extraordinary tableau of the alien cycle, which was to be
discovered within the temple, a place where the Space Jockey's
sacrificed animals as alien hosts (Alien Vault. p101 )
- Dan O'Bannon: They combined these two elements, they squeezed them into one sort of uneasy entity.
Fantastic Film: The idea behind that, I would assume, being that the dangerous aliens were coming back to spawn.
Dan O'Bannon: No, they were two different races. In my script, it was a space going race that landed on this planet and had been wiped out by whatever was there, And now the Earthmen come and endanger themselves in the same way. In the new version, it's just a sort of a surrealist mystery. (Fantastic Films 10 p29-30) - Ridley Scott: The derelict ship
was a battlewagon or a freighter, that was carrying either its own kind
or a weapon from A to B and something went wrong. (The Book of Alien, p87)
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| Page 101 from Ian Nathan's Alien Vault. |
b) A strange and secret game ?
I've noticed how the film director Guillermo Del Toro scattered word across interviews as far as I can see from 2006 to 2011 about the mystery of the derelict ship in Alien and how it compared to the mystery of the city of the the elder things in HP Lovecraft's "At The Mountains of Madness" .
He deliberately going to some extreme to merge the two stories together in
a strange and baffling performance.
I might wonder if Mr Nathan was playing a similar game by incoherently merging past and present in the development of the Alien script as if he were guilty of chewing the corners of Escher posters during his sleep.
Perhaps
sometimes he even plants deliberate misinterpretations as signs that not
everything was supposed to make sense and few people would bother to
notice them
Was it something that his unconscious was doing and he was looking to see how far this personal flow of thought would go.
See also: Guillermo del Toro merges Alien scenario with Lovecraft's At The Mountains of Madness
c) Confusion over the alien life cycle
In Alien Vault, he states that the hieroglyphics reveal that the alien species did feature two sexes, and the Space Jockeys, the long dead temple builders, would sacrifice animals as hosts on a purpose built plinth.
- Dan O'Bannon: See, these alien beings had
two sexes of their own, but they needed a third host animal to
reproduce. So they'd bring in an animal, put it up on the plinth with a
spore, and whammo! Then they'd lead the inseminated animal off to an
enclosure somewhere to await the birth. ("Alien: Creating an ambience by Don Shay"- Cinefex 1.p48/ Alien: The Special Effects p.20).
- Ian Nathan : H.R. Giger's depiction of those hieroglyphics is breathtaking, an impossibly intricate occult tableau of the alien life cycle. Pre-empting Aliens, they reveal the alien species did feature two sexes, and the Space Jockeys, the long dead temple builders, would sacrifice animals as hosts on a purpose-built plinth. On why this version was nixed, Ridley Scott explains, 'It was a matter of pacing. It would have been an hour and a quarter before things got going.' There was also the sheer expense of building such a complicated set. 'I would love to have shot it,' he admits, 'but I realized it would have been wonderful in a three-hour version. What finally cracked it was the budget. We had to get rid of it. (Alien Vault. p101 )
- AvPGalaxy : Several times throughout Alien Vault you mentioned that the unused
pyramid scene implied male and female aliens. Admittedly it’s been some
time since I read O’Bannon’s draft but I just don’t see it in Giger’s
hieroglyphs. I was hoping you could elaborate on this?Ian Nathan : Good question, although Giger might be the best man to explain. Not to put too finer point on it, I rather take the exterior leg-like element to be the female – the top of the triangle being the vagina so-to-speak – there is a female like quality about the hand on the bottom right. Mind you, it could all be crazy Giger stuff: I was following O’Bannon’s thoughts.(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/website/interviews/ian-nathan/)
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| Mr Nathan felt that there was a female like quality about the hand on the bottom right. |
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| Mr Nathan took the top of the triangle to be the vagina so-to-speak |
- AvPGalaxy : Several times throughout Alien Vault you mentioned that the unused
pyramid scene implied male and female aliens. Admittedly it’s been some
time since I read O’Bannon’s draft but I just don’t see it in Giger’s
hieroglyphs. I was hoping you could elaborate on this?Ian Nathan : Good question, although Giger might be the best man to explain. Not to put too finer point on it, I rather take the exterior leg-like element to be the female – the top of the triangle being the vagina so-to-speak – there is a female like quality about the hand on the bottom right. Mind you, it could all be crazy Giger stuff: I was following O’Bannon’s thoughts.(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/website/interviews/ian-nathan/)
- Ian Nathan : I’d be fascinated to hear other people’s explanations of it.(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/website/interviews/ian-nathan/)
h) A final thought
Never the less, the whole pyramid idea really interested Mr Nathan and he hoped that Ridley's film to come at the time, Prometheus, would possess some very weird mythological material like this.
- Ian Nathan : The whole pyramid idea fascinated me. I’m hoping Prometheus might possess some really weird mythology stuff like this! (https://www.avpgalaxy.net/website/interviews/ian-nathan/)


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I've always had the impression that this was a visual record of how ANY being would be attacked by a facehugger, using the Engineers as examples the way humans would of course use humans as examples. This is a case where there's less than meets the eye; it's an Engineer (as we know them now, but obviously Giger didn't) instruction manual/warning sign/religious icon.
ReplyDeleteThat did seem to be the intention when it was an egg silo merged with the ship indeed. It might be like a chemical store warning sign where you see the tube of liquid pouring onto the hand eating the flesh away.
DeleteThe human like astronaut one seems to have been roughly a warning sign as well with Egyptian mythology context, but who the warning was from and for who is another question. I don't know to what degree Giger would have thought about the use of a human, but in his interview with Dixieme Planete, it looked as if he started off with an Alien type alien as the victim which we haven't seen, changed it to a human and then we see the change in the final version to a Space Jockey, and Giger just didn't mention about the latter in his brief word about it to the French magazine.
I hope that Mr Nathan shares some more points of view about his explorations into Giger's paintings, and I might be eager to document what he says.
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"Perhaps this version with the Space Jockey as a victim served as a warning to be seen in the gangway of the derelict ship with the view that the spores were dangerous weapon-like forms.
Still Mr Nathan strangely decided that it was for the earlier pyramid interior, which is what the earlier version of the hieroglyphs with the humanoid astronauts was for."