aliens in suits that look like aliens

"Engineer" sized
space jockey suit

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 Leads from: 

a.) Once we have seen the film, we understand that Ridley Scott has been telling us that the Space Jockey we had seen in the original Alien film was a suit. There might still be a way to turn the idea around because of the dissimilarities between the space jockey in Alien and the space Jockey suits in Prometheus.

However Ridley asked the question and out of that came the answer that it must have been a suit and for Ridley this happened around 1995, or near enough twenty six years after Alien going by Ridley's memory.

What ideas were these floating around in Hollywood at the time?  My own explorations about the matter brought me to think about the alien space suits seen in the movie Fire In The Sky back in 1993, but this movie was preceded by the film Communion which featured the idea
engineer sets the controls from his seat
of aliens that were suits containing a different sort of an alien within and then a few years after Fire In The Sky came Independence Day which developed the idea even further of an alien in a space suit that might have been mistaken for an alien life form itself.
  1. (37:35) Simon Mayo: Now as we have people spalling back in their minds to this character that you're talking about, this is the, there's a mysterious being this giant creature, I know it became known as the space jockey, but erm, could you, could you just
    engineer as his helmet is being put on
    describe him so that people can picture him.

    (37.53) Ridley Scott: "He was perceived, the giant was perceived as skeletal and erm, I kept staring at the skeleton which was kind of a wonderful drawing by H R Giger, and erm, then I thought, twenty, thirty, twenty, actually twenty six years on (1995?), I thought what if this is not a skeleton, but, because we only see it as a skeleton, because of our own, the way we see things in our own indoctrination, and er now I thought, what happens if its another form of protection or a suit? If its a suit then what's inside the suit" ( Mark Kermode and Simon Mayo's Film reviews, BBCRadio 5 live, 01 June 2012.)
    engineer with head encased in helmet
                                               
  2. Often Scott will have a trigger image in mind when he begins prepping a film. With Prometheus  it was the Space Jockey. "The big guy sitting in the seat, " he recalls.

    'Somebody said it's a skeleton and I said it doesn't have to be, it could be a degraded suit. It's only you saying that because you think you're looking at bone structure and a rib cage. Why isn't that a suit? It's been lying there disintegrating for two or three thousands of years in deep cold, that could be a suit. The suit works great as a kind of organic, very sophisticated spacesuit." (Prometheus: the art of the film, p20))                                               

b) Communion (1989)
The subject of extra-terrestrial abduction called Communion which was about the experiences of the writer Whitley Strieber and it displayed the idea that the ETs that he was seeing were somehow unspecifically just outside skins for something else within. In the movie the Grey's face opens up to reveal something reptilian inside.
  1. Philippe Mora: There's a fourth alien figure that we reveal in the film. It's a figure that Whitley saw once - a version of the Communion figure that actually showed the face was a kind of mask and there was something underneath, ("Report on Communion" by Ed Conroy, p186)





Scene from "Communion" exploring
 the idea of the alien creature's heads as masks
Image of a Grey's face with a reptile
face within, from Communion








c) Fire In The Sky (1993)
videotape cover for  
Fire In The Sky, (1993)
In 1993 the movie Fire In the Sky was released, the script written by Tracy Tormé who tried to depict as near as possible the events surrounding the Travis Walton alien abduction UFO case and this movie brought up the same idea about what we perceive to be extra terrestrials, that they're suits with something inside them. The space suits in Fire In The Sky might well be considered a nod to Communion and also a development of the idea.

This idea came about because the film was based on the ET abduction experiences of Travis Walton and what he wrote about as his extra terrestrial abduction experience had already been seen on the screen before so they decided to replace it with something else and Tracy Tormé came up with a visceral interpretation of Walton's abduction that in a clever way became an idea about a perception regarding these alien beings, that what we saw as typical greys were space suits and maybe there was something else inside them and here there were some strange almost humanoid aliens.  Perhaps is was a very interesting idea.
Head of an extra-terrestrials space suit that
resembles a stereotypical 'Grey' from 
Fire In The Sky.
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  1.   Tracy Tormé: I've heard many abductees say if they could just find the zipper on these little grey guys and pull it down, they could see what's really underneath because there is a sense amongst a lot of them there is something very artificial about them... (Coast To Coast Am, April 9th, 2008)
  2. See: Just like "Fire in the Sky" for more photos from the film





d)  Independence Day (1996)
Independence Day poster
In 1996 which is the year that Ridley did claim to have the idea, the movie Independence Day was released which had the idea of extra terrestrials that were slightly Alien inspired which turned out to be organic suits (designed and created by Patrick Tatopoulos who later went onto design the pyramid and its interior and the Predator-Alien chestburster in Alien Vs Predator) with smaller extra-terrestrials slightly resembling the idea of a Grey hidden inside. 

See images of and read more about the development of the "Independence Day" biomechanical suit

alien biomechanical suit

The standing Engineer Spacesuits


"Engineer" sized space jockey suit

(Source: Prometheus :The Art of the Film)
"Engineer" sized space jockey suit

(Source: Prometheus :The Art of the Film)

"Engineer" sized space jockey suit

 (source: Prometheus :The Art of the Film / http://www.kerry-brown.com/)
Suit images that appeared in Entertainment Weekly as a detail in a photo
"Engineer" sized space jockey sui
Noomi Rapace sitting on a step ladder in front of the Space Jockey suits 
(Source: Prometheus The Art Of The Movie book)
stuntman Florian Robin posing
by suits in the corridor. 
(source Flostunts website)

just like "Fire in the Sky"


leading from :
Empty Space Jockey like suits of the engineers found standing either side of a tunnel leading towards the space jockey chamber in the Juggernaut.


Below, Images from the movie Fire In The Sky (1993), directed by Robert Lieberman which is based on the Travis Walton alien abduction case, here the character Travis Walton wakes up in a space craft and curiously encounters space suits of extra terrestrials floating around inside a zero gravity environment, presumably the inside of a space craft. It suggests that all the witness reports of what are known to be "Greys" may not be all that they seem, maybe they are suits and something else is inside them.

 

 

 


Von Däniken's Concepts in Prometheus

Erich Von Däniken
In 2010, Swiss newspaper Blick interviewed Ridley Scott about his Robin Hood film and managed to interview him a question about his forthcoming Alien production, Ridley gives a nod to Erich Von Daniken's writings saying that he guessed right and again for the Hollywood Reporter he mentioned that they were looking at some of his ideas about how the humans came about. Ridley in an interview published Empire magazine in 2012 talked briefly about Von Däniken's concept of previsitation which Ridley remembers everyone poohpoohed, but now he understood that science accepted that we're not alone in the universe, a concept that has been reinforced as well by Stephen Hawking, but not in terms of previsitation, but in view of possible the possible dangers of alien visitors .
  1. In German the article stated "Sehr lange bevor. Scott orientiert sich an Erich von Däniken: «Der hat richtig geraten. Vor Millionen von Jahren hat es hier und woanders höherstehende Geschöpfe gegeben». Es ist eine Zeit, in der HR Gigers All-Monster noch nicht existiert. «Ich muss etwas Neues erschaffen.»"(12,05.2010 Blick (Swiss newspaper))
    Google translates this as "Very long before. Scott is based on Erich von Daniken: "He has guessed correctly. Millions of years ago, there have been standing here and elsewhere higher creatures ". It is a time when the HR Giger's monster does not exist all. "I must create something new."""
  2. It only makes passing reference to its 1979 inspiration and pays heavy tribute to author Erich von Daniken's ideas in his 1968 book Chariots of the Gods? -- which argued that we are not alone and another sentient entity might have spawned us.(The Hollywood Reporter, Secrets of Ridley Scott's 'Prometheus': An Earthquake, Never-Seen Photos and Nightmarish Monster)
  3. Ridley Scott"That's what we're looking at (in the film), at some of Eric van Daniken's ideas of how did we humans come about." (The Hollywood Reporter : Scott Roxborough ( Ridley Scott, Michael Fassbender, Noomi Rapace Tease 'Prometheus' at CineEurope.)
  4. Ridley Scott:In the ‘60s there was a guy called Erich Von Daniken who did a very popular book called Chariots of the Gods?, and he proposed previsitation, which we all pooh-poohed. But the more we get into it, the more science accepts the fact that we’re not alone in this universe, and there’s every feasible chance that there’s more of us, not exactly as we are, but creatures that are organically living in other parts of this particular galaxy. (Stephen) Hawking said he thinks that there are and that he hopes they don’t visit. Because if they do, they’re way ahead of us.”  (Empire, May 2012, p76)

Ancient Mayan Space Jockey 'Star Map' Tablet

Tablet of Mayan Rocket Man in Prometheus
leading from: Prometheus - The Return of the Space Jockey

a) The Invitation via The Tomb of Pakal Votan
One of the tablets that displays the star pattern shown in Prometheus is based on the Sarcophagus Lid of the Tomb of Pakal Votan which is thought by many ancient astronaut theorists to depict an astronaut in a rocket ship cockpit. 

As a viewer initially taking an interest in the trailer as it is found on line, this tablet is suddenly recognisable, one can see the details and what they have changed to make it fit into their story. One could say that it is unfair to take too much notice of it because it's only seen briefly at the side of the shot in the trailer, but for a fan of the Alien series who knows something about the Ancient Astronauts concept being introduced to the trailer with the ability to halt it wherever he wants, there are further questions to ask about it. In the film itself as it is seen on the big cinema screen it might be something really hardly noticeable and whatever is to be found in the mockup of a tablet isn't to be taken too seriously.

The replica shows a slightly altered replica of the sarcophagus lid , the man in the image now has a breathing pipe instead of the part of the image that is less easily imaginable as breathing apparatus and the Mayan depiction of the sky has been taken away and replaced with a very non-Mayan sky depicting the group of stars that in some of the images from archeological digs from around the world which show pictograms roughly match up with the star map seen and drawn by Betty Hill and indeed this starmap configuration becomes an issue at the beginning of Prometheus. However to point out the star pattern on this image would require some guess work.
  1. Propstore.com description:
    Ancient Mayan Space Jockey 'Star Map' Tablet
    Stock # 27008
    Upper section of tablet showing stars
    A large carved tablet used in Ridley Scott’s 2012 sci-fi adventure Prometheus. This tablet can be seen in the key briefing scene which is held by Dr Shaw (Noomi Rapace) and Dr Holloway (Logan-Marshall Green) where they explain the origin of the star map. The star map image is shown to be similar to those on several other tablets that were also discovered, leading them to mount the expedition to find the planet LV-223. This tablet is shown in the sequence to be Mayan in origin dating from 620 CE and excavated from ‘site B central

    TEOTICHUAĆAN.
    The lower section of the tablet features a large reclined person with an iconic ‘space jockey’ head, very similar to that seen of the engineer in the later stages of the film. The entire tablet is bordered with symbol etchings and patterning. The characteristic ‘star map’ which is analysed during the film, can be seen on the top section of the tablet. This large prop is made from a biscuit foam cast which has had a hard resin skin applied on the outside. The mould has been carved, painted and detailed in a grey wash stone effect, then chipped to give an aged appearance. It has been moulded to mount on top of a green screen pole although this is no longer attached. The green screen pole would have been edited out to give the tablet a suspended appearance when used in the production. This iconic tablet is in fantastic production used condition and measures 75cm x 42cm x 11cm (29.5” x 16.5” x 4.5").

b) See: The existing mythology behind tomb lid of the Pakal Votan sarcophagus lid

drawing of Sarcophagus Lid of Pakal Votan

c) Von Daniken's Point of view
Von Däniken since the 1960s has presented multitudes of ancient reliefs, drawings and sculptures and painting in broad strokes the idea that these are depictions of extra terrestrials and space ships. In a way it has been an interesting concept until you look closer and closer at the details and find that quite often what is shown can be proven to be the opposite, however despite the proof offered against much of what he has said, some of his ideas put forth remain very enigmatic such as the tomb lid of Pakal Votan. One can read Von Däniken's books and soon develop the method of thinking that he has provided us with, looking at all these ancient objects and designs from a from a twentieth to twenty first century point of view.

Since the film Prometheus presentation of the Ancient Mayan Space Jockey 'Star Map' Tablet takes inspiration from Von Daniken, we can talk about the image in Chariots
the Sarcophagus Lid of Pakal Votan
of the Gods regarding the sarcophagus lid. Eric Von Däniken asked the question whether primitive imagination could have produced something that seemed so similar to the modern astronaut in his rocket. The strange markings at the foot of the drawing were surely, in his mind, an indication of the flames and gases coming from the propulsion unit.
  1. Erich von Däniken:"There sits a human being, with his upper part of his body bent forward like a racing a motorcyclist today any child would identify his vehicle as a rocket.  It is pointed at the front, then changes changes to strangely grooved indentations like inlet ports, widens out and terminates at the tail in a darting flame. The crouching being himself is manipulating a number of undefinable controls controls and has the heel of his left foot on a kind of a pedal. His clothing is appropriate: short trousers with a broad belt,  a jacket with the modern Japanese opening at the neck and closely fitting bands at arms and legs. With our knowledge of similar pictures we should be surprised if the complicated headgear were missing.And there it is with the usual indentation and tubes and something like antennae on top.  Our space traveler - he is clearly depicted as one - is not only bent forwards tensely; he is also looking intently at an apparatus hanging in front of his face. Is the astronauts front seat is separated by struts from the rear portion of the vehicle,  in which symmetrically arranged boxes circles, points and spirals can be seen. What does this relief have to tell us? Nothing? Is everything anyone links up with space travel a stupid figment of the imagination? (Chariots of the Gods (1968), p123-124)
  2. Erich Von Daniken:" Could primitive imagination have produced anything so remarkably similar to a modern astronaut in his rocket? The strange markings at the foot of the drawing can only be an indication of the flames and gases coming from the propulsion unit." (Chariot of the Gods by Erich Von Danikens p112)
  3. Narrator :  After eight refusals, we are finally granted permission to film this ancient celebrity. The sealed sepulchre is opened to us for a brief half hour, up a steap flight of stairs and down into the even more stifling dampness of the interior of the tomb. .And there he is, captured for the first time on film, the winged god of Palenque, what the learned sees is so stunning that we must examine the details seperately. We see a man seated in a capsule intently watching something. His hands seem to be operating some undefinable controls. His foot is pressing a pedal. At the rear of the capsule we see jets trailing flames behind them. Isn't this a typical position for an astronaut, as we so well know it today? He seem to be dressed for the job, in trousers with a broad belt, a sort of jacket tight fitting at the wrists like coveralls. The chair is well upholstered to absorb the shock of the acceleration. A figure before controls also dressed like an astronaut. Another jet trailing flames. This stone deity say the Maya, represents Kukulkan who came from the stars and returned there (Chariots of the Gods documentary , 1970)
    Erich von Däniken
  4. Narrator :Mysteries of the past manifest themselves on all continents. Within the depths of a temple, the ancient Mayan city of Palenque in central America, von Däniken came upon a stone relief of what is apparently a man seated in a capsule watching something intently. His hands seem to be operating some undefinable controls. His foot pressing a lever. And at the rear of the capsule are jets trailing flames behind them. He seem to be dressed for the job, in trousers with a broad belt, a sort of jacket tight fitting at the wrists . The chair is well upholstered to absorb the shock of acceleration. Mayan legend says that he represents the space travelling god, Kukulkan, the winged god of Palanque. He was carved some time in the seventh century. The possibility haunts us that this figure was the artists rendering of the ancient astronauts who inspired the Mayan culture. (In Search Of: Ancient Astronauts documentary (1973)
  5. Richard Karn(Narrator):Our search for clues about the flying machines of the ancient world takes us to southern Mexico, the ancient city of Palenque is one of the most magnificent of the Mayan culture which flourished all across Southern America for almost six hundred years. This is the burial pyramid of Pacal, ruler of the Mayan world about 600 AD. Here we find what Eric Von Daniken believes are signs that the Mayans might have encountered visitors from the sky. Pacal's ornate sarcophagus is rendered in exquisite detail. The lid is a beautifully carved image of the dead king. Erich Von Daniken believes this relief might show Pacal in some kind of spaceship. Look closely, Pacal is seated in the reclining like an astronaut in a space capsule. His hands seem to be gripping the controls almost like an airplane pilot. His nose appears to be attached to a breathing apparatus. The design behind the seat could be a representation of flames like those of a rocket ship" ( Chariots of the Gods? The Mysteries Continue, 1996)
  6. Playboy:What is the most convincing evidence you have that Earth has been visited from outer space?  
    Von Daniken: Two kinds of proof : proof by hard facts and proof in mythologies, holy books, legends and so forth. We have very good proof in hard facts. In Palenque, a little place in Yucatán, there is a tomb covered by a large stone. On this stone is a wonderful relief. It shows a man sitting in a kind of frame. He is bending forward almost like a motorcyclist, and at his nose he has what I would call an oxygen mask. He is operating some controls with his hands, turning something on - you can recognise every detail - and the heel of his left foot seems to be on a pedal which has different adjustments. Behind him you see some circles, some boxes, all kinds of mysterious things. And outside is a flame like an exhaust.

    Playboy: We're familiar with the stone which also depicts a bird in front of him. What's it doing there?

    Von Daniken: Oh, I don't know. Perhaps it represents flight, you know? Anyway, around the stone is a writing saying the relief shows a Mayan priest who died because of "the hot wind." Archeologists say this shows the poor guy was sick and died in a hot summer season. I see it completely differently, that the hot wind was maybe the blast from a spaceship. I would not say this if we did not have, in many other old texgts, similar things where someone is killed by the "hot wind of the gods." You find these hot winds in the Mahabharata, the hindu epic, and in the Sumerian epic of Gilgamech, where Engidu dies because he has been in contact with the gods and their hot wind. (Playboy 1974) 
d. Skeptics in for the attack on von Daniken 
His claims have often come under attack from others such as Ron Story with his book "The Space God's Revealed" 
  1. Ronald Story:"The personage in this Mayan stone carving from Palenque, Mexico has achieved an unexpected fame at the hands of von Däniken's description of the rocket-driving god Kukulkan is convincing in itself."
    • Erich von Däniken:"There sits a human being, with his upper part of his body bent forward like a racing a motorcyclist today any child would identify his vehicle as a rocket.  It is pointed at the front, then changes changes to strangely grooved indentations like inlet ports, widens out and terminates at the tail in a darting flame. The crouching being himself is manipulating a number of undefinable controls controls and has the heel of his left foot on a kind of a pedal. His clothing is appropriate: short trousers with a broad belt,  a jacket with the modern Japanese opening at the neck and closely fitting bands at arms and legs. With our knowledge of similar pictures we should be surprised if the complicated headgear were missing.And there it is with the usual indentation and tubes and something like antennae on top.  Our space traveler - he is clearly depicted as one - is not only bent forwards tensely; he is also looking intently at an apparatus hanging in front of his face. Is the astronauts front seat is separated by struts from the rear portion of the vehicle,  in which symmetrically arranged boxes circles, points and spirals can be seen (Chariots of the Gods (1968)
    (Space Gods revealed.1976))
  2. Ronald Story:"Von Däniken argues that if this example from his 'chain of proofs' is not accepted by scholars, we must doubt their integrity.'A genuinely unprejudiced look at this picture, ' he tells us, 'would make even more die-hard skeptics stop and think. That much may be true but the illustration of the Palenque carving is Von Daniken's book is small and not easy to see clearly in detail. Moreover, certain details and dryer of the drawing have been blacked out. "(Space Gods revealed.1976)
  3.  Ronald Story:The original relief comes from the tomb at the ancient Mayan ceremonial center Polanque, Chiapas, Mexico (It was found in 1952 kn 1935, as Von Däniken reports) It is carved on the lid of a sarcophagus buried under a large pyramid. The date of the burial (A.D. 683) can be determined by the accompanying Mayan glyphs. (Space Gods revealed.1976))
  4. Ronald Story: Several of Von Däniken's points about the relief can be re-examined with clearer illustrations. The 'rocket' is pointed at the end, but there is something perched on top of it.  If a child could identify the carving as a rocket, he could certainly identify the 'hood ornament' as giant bird resembling a rooster! (Actually this is quetzal, national bird  of Guatamala.)Aerodynamically, the roosters-style ornament might have caused problems.(Space Gods revealed.1976)
  5. Ronald Story: This spacecraft is a rather small with few outer protections for the rider. Of great concern is the fact that the astronaut has his head protruding outside the rocket. It is also strange that the figure is barefoot and does not wear gloves. ( Both fingernails toenails are illustrated) and has a complicated 'helmet' which does not cover his face. Except for a breachcloth and typical Mayan jade anklets, bracelet and necklace and 'helmet' on his head our astronaut is naked. In other words, he is a typically costume upper-class Mayan of around A.D. 700 as pictured in other Mayan carvings and painting.(Space Gods revealed)
  6. Zecharia Sitchin: The enigma of the tomb and its occupant was deepened by the depiction on the tomb lid: it was the image of a barefoot Maya sitting upon a plumed or flaming throne and seemingly operating mechanical devices inside and elaborate chamber. The Ancient Astronaut Society, and its sponsor, Erich Von Däniken, have seen in this a depiction of an astronaut inside a spacecraft driven by flaming jets. They suggest that an extra-terrestrial is buried here. Archeologists and other scholars ridicule the idea. (The Lost Realms, by Zechariah Sitchin p71) 
  7. Read also transcription of section from Pacal Votan tomb lid, Ancient Aliens season 1, episode 4
Model inspired by the Pakal Votan tomb lid image as seen on Ancient Aliens
e) Carl Sagan vs Von Däniken
f) Another relief
 Another relief that resembles a 20th century perception of a rocket to some extent like the content of the tomb lid of Pakal Votan is the QUIRIGUA MAYAN RUINS: BACK FACE of STELA I (a STELA of JADE SKY, 16th King of Quiriguá) possibly created around 800. It's not as likely to inspire people to think of it as a depiction of a man in a space craft as the Pakal Votan tomb lid  but maybe someone might take a look at this thing through a Von Däniken point of view and see this as a space craft, with the bird tail like plumer at the bottom as the rocket nozzle down (which is something the Pakal Votan tomb lid didn't have) with the pilot within the confines of the structure but seen from the front seated above an animal like head which in the Pakal Votan image would be the Monster of the Sun..

QUIRIGUA MAYAN RUINS: BACK FACE of STELA I
(a STELA of JADE SKY, 16th King of Quiriguá).
  1. QUIRIGUA MAYAN RUINS: SCULPTURE on the BACK FACE of STELA i (a STELA of JADE SKY, 16th King of Quiriguá), Guatemala. 1984 Photo by Peter Wendelken.

    The back face of QUIRIGUA STELA i displaying intricate Mayan stone carving in the Quiriguá Mayan Ruins in eastern Guatemala near the banks of the Rîo Motagua. The front face of Quiriguá Stela i bears a portrait of Jade Sky, the 16th king of Quiriguá. Quiriguá Stela i was dedicated in 800. In this 1984 photo, Stela i is partially blackened by the smoke of incense that was burned at the base of the stela in the early 1980's.
    Ruinas de Quiriguá: Estela i, vista de atrás.(source: Neotropical Pete's Flickr album)
 

Crosses of Palenque

cross designs from the Tablets from the Temple of the Foliated cross,
the Cross and also the Sun, in Palenque

The Sanctuary tablet from Temple of the Cross.

Plaster cast of inscribed wall panel, the Sanctuary tablet from Temple of the Cross, 
Palenque, first slab is a plastercast, the second is of an original slab in the National 
Museum In The City of Mexico, the third is a original slabe in the Natrional 
Museum, , Washington, USA. (source:wikimedia )
drawing of the wall panel above from Temple of the Cross

  1. "The central icon at the portal of each of the three temples in the Group of the Cross specified the nature of the cosmic power and community responsibility 
    that defined kingship for that temple. At the portal of the Temple of the Cross, 
    we see a variant of the World Tree. This cross-shaped Tree, with the Serpent 
    Bar of kingship entwined in its branches and the Celestial Bird standing on 
    its crown, was the central axis of the cosmos [the Milky Way galaxy]. Along

      this axis rose and descended the souls of the dead and the gods called from the 
    Otherworld by the vision rite to talk to human beings. It was the path the Cosmic
     Monster took as the sun and Venus moved through its body on their daily journeys.

    The king himself was the worldly manifestation of this axis, and this emphasized 
    his role as the source of magical power. He was not only the primary practitioner 
    of the rituals that contacted the Otherworld: he was the pathway itself. In this
      portal the dead Pacal gives his son a scepter in the form of the monster that rests 
    at the base of the World Tree--the same sun-marked monster that bore Pacal 
    to Xibalba. Chan-Bahlum wields a disembodied head as an instrument of power, 
    as had the Early Classic kings of Tikal and other kings before him."

    Linda Schele and David Freidel, A Forest of Kings: The Untold Story of the 
    ANcient  Maya, p. 242-3" (source:mayaruins.com)
The Central Tablet from the Temple of the Foliated Cross



























Tablet from the temple of the Foliated cross (source: http://learningobjects.wesleyan.edu/)
drawing of the Central Tablet from the Temple of the Foliated Cross.
(source:learningobjects.wesleyan.edu/)


  1. Graham Hancock: "In a mural in the temple of the Foliated Cross at the Mayan site of Palenque in Mexico's Chiapas province,  we see the Milky Way represented by a maize tree rising from 'the place of creation near Orion'.
    The Milky Way is blanked by two figures - the spirit of the Lord Pacal,  the deceased former ruler of Palenque and his son and successor Chan-bahlum, who are shown in shamanic communion with one another. As the father scends to the heavens,  the son is transformed from 'the status of heir apparent into King'
    At the same time it is understood that the deeds and rituals performed by the son are essential if the father's hoped for rebirth amongst the stars is to be achieved.
    Indeed  the whole point of message of the mural - a message that has been described by David Friedel Linda Shele and Joyce Parker as 'central mystery of Maya religion' (Supernatural by Graham Hancock, p645-646. Quotes taken from (Maya Cosmos: Three Thousand Years on the Shaman's Path by David Freidel, Linda Schele & Joy Parker. New York: William Morrow, 1994,)

    The tablet of the sun at the Temple of the Sun
The tablet of the sun at the Temple of the Sun,.(source www.flickr.com/photos/jim-sf/)

Primopredaja vlasti, Palenque, Chiapas, Meksiko 
Drawing of The tablet of the sun at the Temple of the Sun, Palenque,
by Linda Schele